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Re: Can I use a GTX Titan Z GFX Card ina HP Z600 Dual Xeon Workstation, and if yes, how?

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aloh,

 

The minimum power supply for a Titan Z is 700W and while the z600 625W rating is probably conservative and the Titan Z may well run, the dual Xeon X5670's could not extract the full performance. On Passmark, the Titan Z has an average 3D benchmark of 7754.  I am using a GTX 1070 Ti in a z620 running an 8-core E5-1680 v2 @ 4.3GHz and that has a CPU mark of about 17000 and 3D mark of 12132. The benchmark results are good because the z620 has a Passmark single thread rating 2273, but an I7-8770K running at 4.8GHz can make scores near three thousand and those will have 3D marks over 14-15000.  For comparison, The average Passmark single thread rating or a Xeon X5670 2.9 /3.3GHz is 1346 with a dual CPU rating of 12353. Dual processor systems have lower single thread performance.  If you are running simulations, or GPU rendering that are highly GPU oriented, the results could be quite good, but again will not make full use of the Titan Z and visualizaton applications and certinly gaming may be quite disappointing. Without liquid cooling there may be issues as well.

 

Overall, there would be much better performance level in every category: CPU- up tp 12-cores and Turbo speeds of 4.0GHz , Memory- DDR3-1866, fast 2D, 3D, Disk SATAIII, and USB (3.0) by buying a z420 or z620 that supports v2 Xeons. The best general cost/performance single E5-v2 CPU is the E5-1650 v2 6-core (about $130) having a CPU average of 12596 and single thread of 1994. Notice that the single 6-core E5-1650 v2 has a CPU mark higher than the two X5670's combined. The memory, disk system, and USB are all faster as well. If you need more cores, consider an E5-2680 v2, which is a 10-core @ 2.8 /3.6GHz  Those are about $200 these days with a CPU 15737 and ST 1808. With a z620,  adding a CPU riser board means the potential for a second E5-2680 v2:  CPU = 21477.

 

This approach seems to be a much better investment, as the performance is much better and won't need replacement as soon. If you buy a used GTX 1070 Ti for $300-350, the residual $200-300 under the cost of a used Titan Z could buy the new CPU and more.  A working dual Xeon z600 should be worth an amount within a reasonable range of a basic replacement z420 or z620. In effect, the overall project to have a much faster, future looking system is not a lot more costly. If you get a z620, you could add a second GTX 1070 Ti later.

 

BambiBoomZ

 

 


z620 E5-2630 first version tpm update 1.2->2

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I had contacted support and they chatted that I could use the z640 update for the z620 when I was concerned I could not find one for the z620.  I don't recall it ever succeeding, but after a few re-installs of w10pro, I let w10 do the magic and I was prompted at boot to F1 enable tpm and later f3 to clear, and w10 booted up still  My question is if I can or how to get to 2.0 from 1.2 currently working?

 

tpm.msc reports: Manufacturer IFX, Manufacturer Version 3.19, Specification Version 1.2 

if v=3.19, I have seen lots of higher version upgrades of 1.2 to 2.0, but none as low as 3.19; BIOS is 3.94..

Re: Can I use a GTX Titan Z GFX Card ina HP Z600 Dual Xeon Workstation, and if yes, how?

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Dear BambiBoomz,

 

Now that's a very reasonable answer. So, if I just want to keep my HP Z600, which Graphics card would you recommend?

Up to how many Watts is the Graphics card allowed to consume?

 

Re: Can I use a GTX Titan Z GFX Card ina HP Z600 Dual Xeon Workstation, and if yes, how?

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aloh,

 

Choosing the GPU is first based on the use, for example,  3D modeling, simulation, computing, rendering, gaming, dtabase, and etc ., then selected according to the the specifications including: GPU type, memory capacity, clock speed,  and power use, match the PSU capability to the computer, the cooling capacity, and the various choices to the budget. As mentioned it's possible to have a GPU that can not be fully utilized.  I have a 2007 Dell Precision 390 Xeon X3230 4C@2.66GHz /375@ PSU and I tried a Quadro K4200 in it- listed as needing a 450W PSU minimum and the K4200 did better than expected, but was about 25% under the performance in a z420  /E5-1660 v2 system (6-cores @ 4.2GHz). 

 

Here's a chart that is useful with regards to NVIDIA Quadro and GTX as it is includes listing according to the minimum power supply:

 

https://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/NVidia-GPU-Chart.htm

 

Compare the relative benchmark performance with this searchable chart:

 

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php

 

In general, the newer the GPU, the more effieicent it for power, espcially from 7XX GTX and newer, and Quadro M-series and newer. As the z600 has a 625W PSU, you can see that some very fast GPU's are possible.

 

Used GTX that I think have a very good cost /performance ratio are the GTX 770 ( budget), 970, 980Ti (< at one time the No.1 performer), and 1070 Ti (I'm trying one of these these last few days), and for Quadros: K4200, P1000 and P2000 (which I use in z620_2). If you look at the searchable GPU chart, you see that the Quadro P2000 has an average 3D of 7815 and the listing immediately below is the Titan Z at 7754. Of course the Titan Z is king of CUDA with 5760 cores, is a 384-bit card, and has 12GB, but the memory is DDR5 not GDDR5 or GDDR5X, and clock speeds are not fantastic. If I narrowed it down for best cost /performance, I'd say GTX 1070 Ti (500W PSU) and Quadro P2000 (600W PSU). Either of those two could be moved along to a system two generations newer- z440/640 for example.

 

What kind of applications are you using?

 

BambiBoomZ

USB device shorted PC

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What happened was that I connectec a external usb hdd, and the normal windows "new device sound" sounded, but I could not find the device anywhere in windows; my-computer ect. So I disconnected the USB cable from PC, and as soon as the cable disconnected I heard a "click-fizz" sound from the PC and the it whent dark, and after it wont power up any more.

 

I tried disconnecting every possible thing, RAM, HDD, battery ect. but there is no reaction from the power LED/button. I also tried with an external display but still nothing.

 

I cannot see any visible damaged components on the MB and there is no noticable burnt or electrical smells inside the computer.

 

But what I did notice is that as soon as i connect power cable the cpu/mb fan starts running and keeps running until power cable is unplugged, the power button is unresponsive and no light or bleep/sounds. Just the fan running.

 

So my question is, has anybody had this happen before? My guess is the computer was shorted by the USB port due to faluty USB-device.

 

Is there any hope of salvaging the PC, maybe a fuse that might have blown, or could it be a faulty power supply?

 

Or am  I stuck with a giant paper weight now?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: USB device shorted PC

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Was the ext usb device from a name brand company? i have seen many cheap imported usb devices that can cause damage to a computers usb port

 

usb ports on most computers are not very well protected, and can be damaged from a badly designed device, or normal static electrictry. ususally this just blows the port or the port and the usb hub but leaves the rest of the system ok.

 

 

Your AIO's power supply could have failed.  if you are unable to test yourself, have a alocal repair shop do the test.

do not ask me how to test, as if you do not do it right, you run the risk of actually causing more damage to the supply/system because a AIO's power supply is not made like a normal ATX modular supply the display is powered off the AIO supply besides all internal devices MB/HD, and so on and in a AIO each device can have it's own sub power system

Re: Can not update bios on Workstation HP Z820

Re: z620 E5-2630 first version tpm update 1.2->2

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windows 10 can work with TPM v1.2 or v2.0

 

windows 7 can only work with TPM v1.2

 

HP does not support windows 10 on the z620, as such they will not be releasing a 1.2-2.0 TPM update

 

while hp does not have offical support windows 10 v1803 (and lower) it will install and run fine

 

if nessary install the latest TPM update from the windows 7  driver selection


Re: z620 E5-2630 first version tpm update 1.2->2

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I will likely have to have a lot of time or a good reason to go from 1.2 to 2 if I have to download all the spXXXXXX's related and try them. One note says you can't see your version, if true, I would be randomly trying them. But maybe I'll get there sometime.

Re: thinclient t630 freeze

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Just curious, how do you allocate the memory of your T630/UWF or write manager/ramdisk?

 

 

Turbo Boost is not working

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Hello all

I have a problem i just noticed that my computer is not activiting turbo boost under strees ,  i cheked the bios and it's said Turbo Mode is activate also i tried to change the number of processor option in Msconfig but nohting worked,Preferred plans in Power Option is set to High Performance , i don't know why this happened but last month i updated my bios from the initial version to latest version (00.03.07 Rev.A) and i'm not sure if this what caused the problem , also when i tried to Intel Turbo Boost Technology Monitor i got this

 

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My CPU is i5 3470.

Edit : i reseted bios settings to defaults and it seems to work now

Re: Turbo Boost is not working

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i reseted bios settings to defaults and it seems to work now 

Thermal Sensor not programmed & cpu fans running at max

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So I was upgrading my system with an PCIE to M2 card and decided to place it in slot 1 x8 (4). Card ran fine and fans ran as normal. Wanted to see if it would work fine in slot 4  x16. It worked however the fans didn't stop spinning at max rpm. I tried removing the card and it was still the same. Tried reseating the graphics cards, no luck. Of course everytime I would install the card or replace it, I had the system off.

 

Decided to update the BIOS

Old: 3.16

New: 3.94

 

No luck, now I'm getting a message when starting the computer "thermal sensor not programmed". Tried the recommended fix of unplugging the AC power and cycling the power. When that didn't work I decided maybe updating the ME firmware might help.

 

Old: 8.1.31.1351

New: 8.1.72.3002

 

The system fully boots it's just the fans never idle and the bios message prevents smooth reboots. Any ideas are welcomed.

 

System config:

Z820

E5-2670 x 2

128 ECC Ram

Re: Computer starts up normally, a few minute later shutdown with no explanation -8200 Ellite Microt

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CoreTemp_aftersuddenshutdown.pngafter shutdown again start than the resultSir,

No HP advisor software is available for this model, Core Temp 1.12.1 installed. Adding for your reference , it was observed by me that whenever I am in over internet than computer works for more time. Sir please solve the problem what I do next. Thank You for cooperation.CoreTemp-Scr5 17.00.png

 

Re: Thermal Sensor not programmed & cpu fans running at max

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try removing all cards but the video, and sec spu (if installed) all memory except for the first stick, now do a full cmos reset by power off, remove power cord , press pwr button 10 sec, then remove cmos battery, now press cmos reset 5 sec.

 

 

power on, confirm cmos reset (time will/date will be off)

 

power off replace cmos battery, power on set cmos settings do you still have the error?

if so pay to contact HP support,  they might be able to help or motherboard replacement is required or try the items i listed below

 

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04743732

 

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04205252

 

 

there is one other part that affects the fans running at max speed and that is the ambient temp sensor which is located in the power on cable/button.  this cable has a small transistor embedded in the cable that which contains the power on button.  if the transistor goes bad, the case/memory fans will ramp up to ful speed (cpu fans will remain fine)

 

offical solution is to replace the cable, which requires removal of the right side panel/left removable panel and front face plate. unoffical solution is to take existing cable, locate transistor, peal open covering and replace NPN2222a transistor

making sure you attach new transistor the same way as existing one

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-HP-Z820-Power-Button-Speaker-644320-005-Tested/132483743716?epid=15018436757&hash=item1ed8a57fe4:g:xQwAAOSwHMJYOEDT

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z820-Power-Button-with-Speaker-New-644320-005/332629885597?epid=15018436757&hash=item4d7249429d:g:Ng4AAOSw8RJa81eg

 

last solution is to use two 52 ohm 5 watt PWM (4 pin) fan speed reducers on the 2 front fans,  and one each 52 ohm 5 watt resistors on rear case fan and the memory fans (the memory/rear fans will rquire you to cut the 12v line and insert the resistor)

 

the error msg will still be there, but the fans will run at close to proper speeds


Re: z620 cabling

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If I am not doing RAID, should the BIOS be set to AHCI(no +RAID) and then I could use the sata ports to the left of the AHCI ports as eSata or sata ii?

Re: z620 cabling

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Intel and HP both recommend having the SATA emulation BIOS preference set to RAID + AHCI whether you will ever use RAID or not.  HP workstation builds come from the factory with BIOS set that way.

 

It is one of those unusual BIOS settings that affects what drivers gets installed during a clean install.  If you have things set to IDE Separate during a clean install, for example, you don't get the necessary drivers for best SATA/SSD performance.

 

So, for me, I only use a modern SSDs (or a PCIe M.2 SSD in PCIe interface card) as a boot/applications drive in our ZX20 workstations.  I never use RAID.  This is a fine approach, and by clean installing this way I could add in RAID later.

 

Regarding eSATA, I use SATA port 4 for my eSATA backplane adapter attachment because it is more towards the front of the case and is easier to route the interface cable around the lower of the two PCIe video cards we use.  There used to be some HP advice on what SATA port to use for eSATA in these, but that went away with later BIOS revisions.  The ports will autonegotiate eSATA just fine.  So, use either SATA port 4 or 5.  Remember that there are 6 total SATA ports and port 4 equals the 5th and port 5 equals the 6th in the series.  Ports 0 and 1 are SATA generation III; the others are generation II.

Re: Stop Code DRIVER IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL fwpkclnt.sys Windows 10 - Blue Screen

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Hola como estas te comento que presento el mismo error.

Con 4 commputadores HP intel core i7 de 8va generacion.

He leido en vario foros y me dicen que desinstale HP Velocity.

 

Lo hare mañana y te hago saber mis resultados.

 

Vaya creo que estoy molesto por esta situacion.

 

Re: Shrink C drive and create a swap partition

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Hi wawood,

 

I have question, If system has 4GB physical RAM and configured with 1024 UWF RAM, what is the maximum uptime ?

Because somewhere i have read that without regular reboot when UWF is on, there is limit of uptime. Is thiis really case?

 

Now i have created page file in D, what is the best memory management if having 2 drives one C drive is 22 GB and D drive is around 8 gb and this drive pagafile is configured range from 4 gb to 6 gb.

 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

Questions for Global Warranty Policies in Lao PDR and others.

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Dear, Sir

 

Hello. I'm working in Lao PDR. We're operating a training center.

 

We have lots of HP Product including Desktop, Printer and Laptop PC

 

Now, I post this on here becauseI have a questions about HP Global warranty policies and it's service coverage.

 

About 4 months ago, One of our Desktop had a problem.

 

All of Our PCs are under the Global warranty services

 

So I requested warranty service at Micro Info which is official region partner in Lao PDR.

 

They answered that They cannot provide repair or checking service because we didn't purchase equipment in Lao.

 

(This is imported from Korea, Korean supplier also said that this kind of problem cannot fixed in Lao)

 

Then, I have to find some other ways to fix a computer. So, I asked Email Adress of HP offiial partner in Thai.

 

After receiving their email, I mail them whether they can fix or not in Thai area if I bring the broken computer.

 

They replied that. the computer is under the global warranty period so Micro info should help this.

 

and I brought the computer to Micro Info for reparing and checking problems

 

And then, Yeah. Actually, Problem was solved beyond dispute. I satisfied with that result

 

(the problem was software-windows, they checked and updated windows as a latest version)

 

However, After we got the computer back,

 

I heard that my staff payed 100,000kip(about 12USD) in the name of 'service charge for fixding windows'.

 

On this point, I had a question for this.

 

I thought that Global warranty means that If the problem is not caused by user's mistake or if it's not entire breakage,
 
We may able to get maintenance service as a free. but we payed for the service at this time.
 
I'm wondering whether there is a standard for free services under the global warranty period.
 
Because we have many kinds of HP products. We can pay for 100,000kip. It's not that big deal.
 
However, I need to know this situation for the future.(for other equipment)
 
To sum up my real questions,
 
1. Can I get global warranty service as a free when machines are under the Glboal warranty in Lao PDR?
 
2. If I have to pay a money for fixing. Could you tell me which kind of problem should I pay for repairs?
 
    Also, I want to know the regulations and policies if you have.
 
For this question. I already e-mail them(official HP partner in Thai and Lao PDR)
 
but I still didn't get answer from them. that's why I posted this messageon this buleetin board.
 
plz reply it for me, I look forward and expect proper answers.
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