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Re: Unable to update BIOS on Z420 Workstation
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HP Z800 Upgrade with Titan Xp or Quadro M5000? Power Upgrade? Cooling Upgrade?
Hi,
I do run a HP Z800, spec here:
2x Xeon X5650@2.67GHz
RAM 72GB
Current Graphic Card Nvidia Quadro 5000
850 Watt Power supply.
Windows 10Pro 64Bit latest release
I am working in architectural visualisation, predominantly I create spherical 360 degree still images.
Rarely I ceate movies (yet).
Picture size typically 12000 x 10000 pixels. Post processing happens with Affinity Photo.
To model and render I use Vray 3.6 for Rhino 5.0. Vray can handle the combined use of CPU & GPU via Cuda.
Still, when doing this the images turn out grainy/noisy despite the denoiser beeing on.
CPU alone rendering works fine but is slow, that why I want the combined power.
My current graphics card Quadro 5000 never shows much usage in the Nvidia GPU utilisation graph and I get an CUDA error 2 : unable to allocate enough memory to perform the requested operation (out-of-mem).
I suspect a settings error.
I'd like to upgrade the graphics card to fix this. The choice is:
Titan Xp or Quadro M5000.
McNeel, manufacturers of Rhino3D suggest that there is no real benefit of using a Quadro over a GeForce card.
https://wiki.mcneel.com/rhino/rhino5videocards
So I wonder if I can get a Titan Xp for the same price as the M5000 should I go for it?
Do I need to upgrade powersupply and/or cooling if I take the Titan? Would either card fit physically?
(The M5000 does not need these upgrades).
Thanks so much,
Pretty
Ps.: Will two X5690 work with the existing cooling&power?
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Re: Audio Plug controls HP Z840 Fan Speed
So I guess no one in HP Support or on the forums found this strange - no other replies. Really?!
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PCI slot
I need a PC with PCI slot and it seems that my only hope is in the HP 290 G1. Unfortunately its data sheet says that PCI slot is optional, depending on country. How do I get to know whether it has PCI or not? I am from Hungary.
Thanks in advance!
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Cpu 0 fan loud sound
Hello, I have a problem with the fan from one of the processors. For 2 weeks it runs at a speed of 3640 rpm and has become noisy, the 2nd fan goes to 900 rpm and everything is ok just like the rest of the Hp z820 fans. I tried believing that everything that could be done, including from the bios, is idle. I've changed the fans between them and the speed has now moved to the other fan and the first one has returned to normal, that means mechanically they're okay. I made an upgrade to win 10 but the problem started two weeks after those. Until then there was total silence I did not hear him going, I pray long if you can help me with a solution.↧
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Re: z230 run to BSOD
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Noisy Cpu Fan Hp Z 820
Hello, i have a problem whit the fan from one of the processors. For 2 weeks it runs at a speed of 3640 rpm and has become noisy, the 2nd fan goes to 900 rpm and everything is ok just like the rest of the hp z820 fans. I tried believing that everything that could be done, including from the bios, is idle. I ve changed the fans between them and the speed has now moved to the other fan and the first one has returned to normal 900 rpm, that means mechanically they re okay. I made an upgrade to win 10 but the problem started two weeks after those. Until then there was total silence i dit not hear him going, i pray long if you can help me whit a solution. Thanks
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About Meltdown Spectre
Hi,
I've a HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC I'm wondering if you are considering the possibility to release a bios upgrade for my laptop.
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Re: PCI slot
Szia piltom,
Perhaps I do not understand the question, but ,if you are ordering a new system, the list of options will be clear. If you are buying a used system, ask the seller if it has the optional PCI slot.
The z-series workstations have retained a PCI slot until recently. I have z620's and z420's, both having a standard PCI slot. I use the PCI slot for PCI sound cards. The z440 and z640 also have a PCI slot, whereas on the z240, PCI is optional. The new Z4 does not have a PCI slot.
BambiBoomZ
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Re: Best HP Z800 memory configurations 12 GB - 20 GB
Ginesoliver,
SEE: http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/downloads/Mini_WP_Z800_memory.pdf
As the z800 is LGA1366 using the X58 chipset, and the memory is triple channel. the optimal RAM configuration will be to use sets of 3X identical modules, PC3-10600E (DDR3-1333 ECC unbuffered), or if you think there is any chance you will ever have a second processor, use ECC registered. That choice isi mportant as if you do ever add the 2nd CPU, all the RAM will have to changed. Also, is there is to be a future 2nd CPU, consider arranging the potential for a RAM configuration that will be symmetrical for both CPU's. For example, my last LGA1366 / X58 system was a Dell Precision T5500 (2X Xeon X5680) and as the 2nd CPU riser had only three RAM slots, I used 3X 8GB on the mainboard and 3X 8GB on the riser board using all identical brand and model RAM. The same was applied to my last dual CPU system, an HP z620 (2X Xeon E5-2690): 4X 8GB on the mainboard and 4X 8GB on the riser board. Both those systems had highly related memory test results on Passmark.
The other important aspect to optimization is to follow the sequence of module installation- consult the optimization guide listed above. In general, the largest capacity modules fill the first channel, but there is a specific pattern to filling the slots.
Consider selling the 3X 2GB and add 2X of 4GB identical to the extra 1X 4GB for 24GB. My main workstation today (z620 /E5-1680 v2) uses 64GB (8X 8GB DDR3-1866 ECC unbuffered) which completes both mainboard quad RAM channels. My other system (Xeon E5-1660 v2) has 32GB and that system ran out of memory on large renderings- those needed 37+GB. The z620 system will never have a 2nd CPU as the E5-1680 v2 is strictly a single processor. If there is a chance a 2nd CPU will be added and you have unbuffered RAM, this would be the time to start over with registered.
BambiBoomZ
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Re: PCI slot
Hi BambiBoomZ,
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately system specs are not always correct at local stores and webshops since they simply copy the specs from HP's site not paying attention to the footnotes. I plan to buy a new HP 290 G1.
piltom
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Re: PCI slot
piltom,
Speaking personally: if the shop or seller will not use three minutes to look inside the system and check for a PCI slot, or doesn't know how to identify PCI as compared to PCIe, then I would find another shop or seller.
BambiBoomZ
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Re: Z240 Solid State SATA RAID-1 Bootable C: Drive
Summitville,
When you install an SATA SSD, it should be recognized right away. PCIe SSD's do need a driver.
I have never heard of a boot drive in RAID 1; typically a boot drive will be RAID 0 for improved performance, or preferably some form of 1 +0 for protection + performance.
In my view, as RAID 1 mirroring is to protect the drive against failure is not the optimum configuration: 1. SSD's are far more reliable than mechanical drives, and 2: the far more likely scenario for failure is a virus that both drives would acquire, and 3: in the event of failure, rebuilding a RAID 1 can take many hours.
Given the disadvantages of RAID 1 for the C: drive, I would suggest:
1. build the C: drive with the OS, all applications, software, updates, macros, and settings finished.
2. Create a partition that is somewhat smaller than the partition containing C: on an exterior drive that is run only for backup.
3. create a complete system image stored on the special external drive partition. If there is ever a failure of the C: drive, or virus, malware , ransomware, etc., with a couple of clicks, the pristine C: drive can be restored in 1/10th the time of rebuidling a RAID 1. Once or twice, when the C: drive has gotten a lot of errors, very fragmented (25%+), and had a lot of changes, I've used the pristine orignal image to start over and I can delay reinstalling everything for a few months.
This also saves the cost of an identical, redundant SSD, allowing that savings to be applied to a larger capacity SSD or have a good M.2. My choice has been to to buy a 250-256GB M.2 drive for C: and follow that with a 480-512GB SATA for files:
HP z620_2 (2017) > Xeon E5-1680 v2 (8-core@ 4.3GHz) / z420 Liquid Cooling / 64GB DDR3-1866 ECC Reg / Quadro P2000 5GB / HP Z Turbo Drive M.2 256GB AHCI / HP 9212-4i RAID Controller > Intel 730 480GB + HGST 7K6000 4TB / / 825W PSU > Windows 7 Prof.’l 64-bit
The HP RAID controller is not running a RAID, it is to provide 4X SATAIII connections instead of 2X. The Intel 730 480GB, by the way has a very high endurance rating and the the last SMART report listed, that at the present rate of use, it has 46.8 Years left. This system will be adding a Samsung 850 Evo 250GB to run soft-synths.
The system image is kept on a partition on a Western Digital Blue 1TB in a StarTech Aluminum USB 3.0, fan/ventilated enclosure that is run only about one hour per week.
While I am very happy with the HP Z Turbo Drive 256GB M.2 and the disk benchmark is quite high (Passmark= 14227), I've never noticed a significant time savings in startup or application speed as compared to the Intel 730 480GB that was the previous C: drive- only a few seconds here and there.
BambiBoomZ
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Z800 (E5620) vt-d & vt-x
Greetings!
According to https://ark.intel.com/, the E5620 processors in my Z800 support VT-x with EPT and VT-d, but I cannot figure out how to enable them in the Z800 BIOS (v. 3.60 Rev-A).
Might anyone here be able to walk me through the steps I need to take to enable VT-x with EPT and VT-d on my Z800 with twin E5620 processors?
Thank you!
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Re: Audio Plug controls HP Z840 Fan Speed
if the fan speeds slow down when the audio jack is used, i suspect a resistive type short to ground somewhere
a direct short would cause a power off, but a short that has (say 2 k oms) resistance might only cause a voltage drop
that does trip the current protection
is the house wiring correct? (IE-proper grounding at the outlet) are all other powered items grounded?
have you tried, another audio prodect in the jack
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Re: cpu upgrade for hp z600
hp only lists the cpu's they supported, i do know some z600's came with 130 watt cpu's and they should run the 5690's also
i just don't know if all z600 systems support 130 watts. as i stated if you use a cpu of a higher wattage hp will useually stop the boot with a bios msg
it might be a s simple as upgrading the 90 watt coolers to the 130 watt coolers that will allow the 5690's to work
check this link
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Re: cpu upgrade for hp z600
X5672 is even faster each, but 4 cores each.
I've built Z600s both ways and it is a bit hard to tell the difference but I can feel that bit of extra speed with the dual quad cores. 8 total has been fine for the programs we use. For another purpose two of those slower X5675s would be a better choice.
Bigger deal than that small perceive difference was to populate all memory slots with identical 1333MHz memory, and to add in a Predator M.2 PCIe SSD card as posted about here.
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Re: PCI slot
europe is a bit diffrent than the US when it comes to vender support HP europe may not have a office in hungary
forcing you to call say hp poland for support or they may only have authorized HP support partners
also it's sometimes hard to determine just where the system you order, will actually ship from due to hp sometimes not having a local warehouse in your area
i would see if HP has a regional sales or support office in your country if not call the hp office that handles support for your area
only hp support or sales can tell you which HP part number has the nessary pci slot configuration you want
once you have this part number any hp authorized rep or HP themselves can order said part number for you
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Re: cpu upgrade for hp z600
I think you are right when it comes to the use of the cpu. We usually use it for video editing which means we make use of all 24 threads. It would be interesting to know if there is any difference when rendering to adobe premiere pro.
I'm with SDH the biggest general performance increase was installing an SSD even if it is just for your boot drive and main programs but I've not had chance to try the M.2 version SSD yet
I'm with SDH the biggest general performance increase was installing an SSD even if it is just for your boot drive and main programs but I've not had chance to try the M.2 version SSD yet
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Re: cpu upgrade for hp z600
Sam,
The Kingston Predator M.2 SSD seems to no longer be made by them, but if you dig around you likely can find some still available. I've liked that speed boost quite a bit, but it is not like when we went from HDD to SSD. It is more like getting a faster video card that is a step up.... you can feel it but it does not blow your socks off. But, that is a moot point with them being gone from production.
However, the Z620 can run the HP Z Turbo Drive G1 (but not the G2 version.... you have to go to Z640 for that). So, enjoy use of your SSD in a Z600. One alternative to the Predator would be to get a nice PCIe card that lets you run SATA III SSDs at their full speed in the Z600 (which is a SATA generation II workstation).
EDIT: The ZX00 series workstations have PCIe slots that max out at PCIe Generation 2 speed/bandwidth. You need a newer workstation to get PCIe Generation 4 speed/bandwidth. So, in our Z400 and Z600 workstations I put the Kingston Predator M.2 PCIe interface card in a slot that is PCIe generation 2 with "x2" electrical lanes. That is the max the Predator can use for both of those specifications so you want to at least match to that capability in your choice of PCIe slot. See the related info from DGroves a couple of posts down in this thread......
Scott
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