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Z4 G4 install HP Z Turbo Drive Quad Pro

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This document ( http://www8.hp.com/h20195/V2/GetPDF.aspx/c04798669 ) say that slot 5 is the correct slot for installing a HP Z Turbo Drive Quad Pro on a Z4 G4.  I don't think that is correct.  Shouldn't is be slot 3 which is a x16 slot vs slot 5 which is x8.

 

Also, if I go to the BIOS System Diagnostics to perform a hard drive test, it does not find the the 2 NVMe chips in the HP Z Turbo Drive Quad Pro.  It seems that the behavior of the device is sproradic, sometimes visable to the bios sometime not.

 

Anyway, I need some help.  All new Z4 and Quad Pro and having a hard time getting it to work.


Re: Z800 PCIe NvME + lsi megaraid what slots ?

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Hi

 

The 950 Pro NvME card has a bios chip on it which is why it will work with the z800.

 

I have not looked at samsungs new 970 pro yet but i dont believe it will work.

 

I hace a z820 now using a 960 pro which has to boit via clover. So if the 970 will boot then i also will buy one for my z820.

 

Let me know if you get it working thanks.

 

Re: Out of spec Z600

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Regarding memory.... the latest official info from HP on the ZX00 version 2 workstations in terms of memory is from the latest QuickSpecs for the Z400/Z600/Z800, which ended being published by HP 11/13.  The Z800 officially had 16GB sticks of ECC Buffered DDR3 DRAM listed, but the largest the Z600 had listed were 8GB sticks.  This does not mean that 16GB sticks won't work.  I'd personally choose only the 16GB sticks HP approved for the Z800 if I needed 16GB sticks in our Z600 version 2 workstations.

 

HP approves specific parts after extensive testing.  If they don't test it they don't approve it.  That has never meant we cannot do our own testing to prove within reason that something works for us.  We do that quite a bit here.....

Re: Out of spec Z600

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SDH, I was hoping you would answer. I've read your posts on the subject before and your inputs seems to be based on real world experience rather than a mindset of "it should work, so I'll tell everyone it works".
Your knowledge has been very helpful in my sifting through facts and fiction! I was hoping for further progress in your research since the last post, though...
I think I'll put this matter to rest now. I've got my eye on a matched pair of X5675 from Hong Kong. Free shipping... They'll do.

But one resting matter leaves room for others.
Next out of spec question is RAID-related.
According to the almighty QuckSpecs, the Z600 supports RAID 0, 1, 5 and 10 for up to 4 drives.

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There are 6 SATA ports on the motherboard and with my LSI 3041E 4-Port SAS 3.0 Gb/s RAID Card I get another 4 for a total of 10 SATA ports. I realize that internal  real estate is the big limitation here, but I was wondering about the specification once again. I guess HP only counts OEM-style instalations with the two hotswap bays, one 3.5" HDD in the bottom of the ODD bay and one right underneath the slim DVD drive for a total of 4.

 

Is the 4 HDD limit based on actual limitations in the BIOS or just the fact that HP didn't foresee a guy like me who has an empty 5.25" bay and an adapter for six SFF drives running on dual molex's and a mission to make a dream of filling a HP case to the brim come true?

 

The short question. Could I use more than the specified 4 HDD's in the built-in RAID?

For instance. Could I run six 1TB disks in IME in a 2x3 configuration from the onboard SATA ports while running my boot SSD and three "deep storage" HDD's from the SAS-card?

 

I don't know if this is a good idea or not. I know i can fit more discs. But could I RAID them...? 

Guess I could run one 3-disc IME on the built in RAID and one on the SAS-card. But still. I want to know about the spec!

 

Hiatus


Re: Z800 PCIe NvME + lsi megaraid what slots ?

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Well 

 

im owning a 970evo plus , you are mentioning 970Pro

 

 

My pc is another state , and i bought the ssd in Swiss ... so i can try it weeks later... if it doesend work ... i beter return it while im here 

Re: Out of spec Z600

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Well, I have to disappoint you.  I don't do RAID..... I could but I don't.  It was a conscious decision to keep things simple, and then reinforced by the long life and speed of backup high end SSDs provide.  So far so good.

 

Hey, do you have one of the HP TI USB3 cards in there?  That is a worthwhile upgrade to think about.  

 

p.s.  Good choice on those two matched processors.  See if you can get identical sticks in each of your 6 memory slots..... they are synergistic when you do that.  6 x 8GB would be nice.  You can run ECC unbuffered to get a bit more pop if you want.

Re: Out of spec Z600

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About the memory.
The reason I got a bit confused was initially that I could not figure out how to mix different sizes of RAM.
I thought 6x16 for 96GB was a bit overkill and since I already have two sticks of 16GB, I thought I might fill the rest with 8GB sticks instead.

But once again there's no spec. How would one place and number those dimms. There's no spec for different size RAM and dual CPU for Z600 and I cant figure out what combination would work, if any...
Te boot load order is:
ram1.png

etc.

The same is true for the Z800, however, the Z800 has 6 Dimms per CPU, but I guess the principal stands anyways...
When mixing 8GB and 16GB in a Z800, the QuiskSpecs specifies placing them as follows:

Screenshot 2013-10-24 09.59.01.png

So here's my problem. On the Z800 the boot order and the spacing between the different sizes gives me headache.
When I try to translate that into the Z600 world I find myself wanting to put 2x16 (dimm 1+2)+1x8 (dimm 3) in the CPU0 bank and 1x16 (dimm 1) and 2x8 (dimm 2+3) in the CPU1 bank?

Am I loosing my mind here?!
Three channels, six dimms. According to the color coding on the Z800-dimm slots, the boot order and the spacing between the sizes, the Z800 would read 16-16-16, 16-16-16, 8-8-8, 8-8-8. The big ones first, then the smaller ones in groups of three.

On a Z600, the order jumps from 0 to 1 in the same way, but where does that leave me? I also have three channels. But no way of knowing how to configure this based on the boot order.
With one CPU (CPU0), three channels run on dimm 1(CPU0),2(CPU0),3(CPU0). How does it split the dimms between the channels with dual CPU? Just the same as with one? One bank at the time from 1 to 3? Or like the Z800?

Dimm 1(CPU0),1(CPU1),2(CPU0),2(CPU1),3(CPU0),3(CPU1)?

The little hair I had left on my head... I'll leave it at that.


I guess I'll just buy 4x16 and try to learn to live with that if I can't figure this out...

I live near a used server shop...

 

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Re: Out of spec Z600

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 wrote:

Well, I have to disappoint you.  I don't do RAID..... I could but I don't.  It was a conscious decision to keep things simple, and then reinforced by the long life and speed of backup high end SSDs provide.  So far so good.

I've never crawled down that hole before either. Not sure if I would like it down there but I feel like I have to try...

-Backups are always cheaper than time machines. Old native Swedish saying.


Hey, do you have one of the HP TI USB3 cards in there?  That is a worthwhile upgrade to think about.  

No, my Z is filled with wifi-card, Quadro FX4800 and a RAID-card. Since i don't really use the RAID-card I might as well look into one of those USB3 cards. I've seen them before but I always wanted to try using my RAID-card before throwing it out since I probably payed good money for it...

What do you use USB3 for that USB2 lacks? Is it just the transfer speed?

My external backup drives runs in USB3 cabinets, but the discs them selves are quite slow...

My wireless HP keyboard stutters when I plug it in to my laptop's USB3. So does all my old favourite logitech USB2 mice, so I haven't really looked in to it since my quadro takes up two rows, one pci socket is lost and i need wifi and my Quadro.
I guess I could get a USB wifi-dongle and make it work...

 

p.s.  Good choice on those two matched processors.  See if you can get identical sticks in each of your 6 memory slots..... they are synergistic when you do that.  6 x 8GB would be nice.  You can run ECC unbuffered to get a bit more pop if you want.


The local server shop has dirt cheep memory on the shelf. The exact same matching sticks that's already in my computer. So i'll probably go for the ridiculous 96GB in the end... To add 4x16 would be cheaper than 6x8 i think. Maybe I could trade him my 16's...
Is the difference between buffered and unbuffered memory noticeable on a win10pro workstation running Solidworks, Adobe Creative Suite 6, two virtual machines (openSUSE and macOS<-not really. Of course I don't, Officer. That would be illegal!) and firefox with about 5 million tabs open?
Remember that you are talking to someone who doesn't think hes suffering from running dual channel...

 

Give it to me straight doc. Am I missing out?

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Re: Z800 PCIe NvME + lsi megaraid what slots ?

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1) sell your 970

 

2) buy a 950 Pro

 

3) buy a pcie to nvme card

 

4) enjoy a super fast operating system 

 

 

Re: HP XW9400 Workstation CPU Upgrade

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Hi, sorry for the late reply but my BIOS revision is 3.12 and the boot block date is 10/12/07. 

 

I've gotten the CPU from the supported Processors. 

Thanks 

Re: Can we use Z820 power button (part no.644320-5) in Z600 (original part no.536305-01?

Re: Z800 PCIe NvME + lsi megaraid what slots ?

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Thank you veryyyyyy muuuch

 

 

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Re: I Got the POST Error "513-Configuration Requires a Front Chassis fan and this fan is not de

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I also try this method. But the same error is occurs.

Re: I Got the POST Error "513-Configuration Requires a Front Chassis fan and this fan is not de

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Yes. Front chassis fan is spinning and I also reseating the Pin. But the error continued.

Re: I Got the POST Error "513-Configuration Requires a Front Chassis fan and this fan is not de

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Did you do anything with the HDD's when you installed the GNU/Linux-distro?
513 usually has to do with HDD-cooling it seems...

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Z620 Front Panel Adapter

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I am trying to build a pc using the z620 motherboard.  I have already sorted out the 5 pin fan header and the 18 pin power connector, but I cannot figure out how to work around the front panel header.  The pins are in a nonstandard layout, and I could not find an adaptor online.  Does anyone know what I can do?

HP ThinPro - Citrix Workspace Popup Message

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Does anyone know how to disable the 'Citrix Receiver is now Citrix Workspace app' pop up message which displays when launching a Citrix desktop / app after logging into Citrix StoreFront ?

Clicking 'Got It' doesn't prevent the message displaying again next time the Citrix desktop / app is launched again.

I've had a look through the Citrix Workspace default settings and also through the ThinPro registry but not found where to disable this.

We are using T510 & T620 thinclients running ThinPro 5.2 and 6.1 and Citrix Workspace v13.10

Thanks

 

Thunderbolt2 PCIe add-on-card

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Question for someone who has installed the F3F43AT Thunderbolt 2 add-on-card into a certified HP workstation like my Z820: If I don't run a display port cable from the output of my graphics card to the input of the Thunderbolt 2 card, will it still work? I just need data (to connect to a RAID drive) and not drive any monitors. Moreover, in my case, I'm not using one of the "certified" Quado cards on HP Quick Spec sheet.

 

 

 

 

 

USB 3.0 thumb drives Intermittently fail to work in the front USB ports

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I have a Z440 system which, for reasons unknown, intermittently fails to recognize any USB 3.0 thumb drives. I am not able to discern any type of pattern for failure or resolution. On occasion when I plug in a USB 3.0 thumb drive the drives activity indicator fails to illuminate and the OS does not see the drive to mount it. I can plug a USB 2.0 device into the same port and everything works as expected. I can take the USB 3.0 drive and plug it into the rear ports and it functions as expected. This behavior is not consistent as there are occasions when the USB 3.0 drives work fine in the front USB ports. Rebooting doesn't consistently resolve the problem.

 

What I have done to troubleshoot:

 

  • Rebooted the system
  • Used multiple USB 3.0 drives from the same manufacturer.
  • Used different USB 3.0 drives from different manufacturers.
  • Used different capacity drives (ranging from 8GB to 64GB).
  • Tested these same drives in the front USB 3.0 ports on my Z620 system without problem.
  • Reseated the USB 3.0 cable at both the motherboard connector and the I/O board connection.
  • Replaced the entire I/O board (note this does not include the cable, just the I/O board).
  • Ensured I am running the latest firmware.

The problem does not appear to be OS related as when this issue occurs I am unable to boot from the front USB ports. The same USB 3.0 drive boots fine using the rear USB 3.0 ports.

 

Has anyone else experienced this behavior on their Z440 front USB ports? If so how did you correct the problem? The next step is to try replacing the USB cable between the motherboard and I/O board however I suspect that will not solve the problem. The only other thing I can think of is an issue with the motherboard.

 

Any help is appecriated, even if it's to say "I haven't had that problem on my Z440 system".

 

Configuration:

 

Z440, optical drive, media reader, 16GB (third party), 700 watt power supply, additional cooling, E5-1650v3, 1TB Z-Turbo drive, NVS-315 GPU, Windows 10 Professional x64, latest firmware.

Re: Z620 Front Panel Adapter

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It would be nice if you had the version 2 Z620 motherboard, which can run the fastest Z620 memory and processors.  Look at your boot block date in BIOS to tell.

 

Sometimes the Z620 case/power supply/cables are sold as a "bare bones" purchase on eBay.  I have taken old slow version 1 Z620 workstations and tuned them to near highest-end Z640 performance by transplanting in a Z620 version 2 motherboard, 8 sticks of matching 1866 fastest Z620 HP RAM, and a HP-approved version 2 processor such as a E5-1660 v2 or E5-1680 V2 processor.

 

Your answer, if you don't go that bare bones version 2 route:  

HP Z620 Speaker annd Power Switch Cable 644320-004

HP Z620 Front USB Board and Cables, Grade A- Shape 644321-002

Dremel tool as needed.....

 

 

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