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Re: How does your HP workstation matchup at Passmark Software ?

December 15, 2016, 7:41 am
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Regarding SATA3 support, the only instance that you are going to feel a difference vs SATA2 is when using an SSD.

WIth that in mind, I would consider getting something like the ApricornVelocity Solo X2. Basically the card uses a PCIe 2.0 2x slot and you mount the 850 EVO SSD on the card for full SATA3 bandwidth. Its tried and tested and also a clean way to install your SSD. It also gives you an additional SATA3 port should you wish to connect another SSD or HDD.

 

There is also a Duo version ofthe card - with that you forgo the additional SATA3 port but instead can mount 2 SSD's on the card, configure them in RAID 0 and get speeds of up to 800MB/s.

 

In general, if I had a Z600 which I felt like upgrading I would probably get one of the above two cards, also a USB3 controller card if you do not have this already, something like the HighPoint RocketU 1144C, for full bandwidth on all USB 3 ports.

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bios upgrade z600 necessity for improved security or not when on windows 10 64bit

December 15, 2016, 8:03 am
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Dear fellow HP Community members

 

I have been searching the discussion boards but have not found the answer to my questions related to a HP Z600 with a Bios Block Date of 09/30/2009.

 

1. I noticed that the Bios is a not up to date and could be improved upon, however when checking the specific software and driver utilities provided for this workstation Windows 10 is not officially supported, Windows 8 / 8.1 is the latest.

Now under Windows 8 / 8.1 I do find a Bios update, I just am curious if I can use this Bios update on this Windows 10 installation.

 

2. I have a LSI 9212-4i SAS 6Gb 4-port RAID PCIe Card which I intend to use to connect a Samsung EVO 850 main OS (Windows 10 Pro  64bit) in order to benefit from the 6 Gbs that the card offers to communicate with the SSD.

I presume that I need to use the suggested Windows 8 / 8.1 LSI driver that HP suggests in the HP Software  listing that you find here http://bit.ly/2gP0I2W

 

Am I correct ?

 

 

 

 

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Re: How does your HP workstation matchup at Passmark Software ?

December 15, 2016, 8:08 am
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Well I now do not intend to invest more in this system than a few bucks and since I already have a spare LSI 9212-4i SAS 6Gb 4-port RAID Card laying around I presume I could get the same results which I could with your suggested Apricorn Velocity Solo X2 card to connect to this Samsung 850 Evo SSD drive.

Correct me please if I am not reading this right.

Also I do already a USB3 controller card which I have to build in this PC Workstation later tonight.

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Re: How does your HP workstation matchup at Passmark Software ?

December 15, 2016, 8:13 am
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AnthonyK wrote:

Well I now do not intend to invest more in this system than a few bucks and since I already have a spare LSI 9212-4i SAS 6Gb 4-port RAID Card laying around I presume I could get the same results which I could with your suggested Apricorn Velocity Solo X2 card to connect to this Samsung 850 Evo SSD drive.

Correct me please if I am not reading this right.

Also I do already a USB3 controller card which I have to build in this PC Workstation later tonight.

 

The LSI card will be fine and you will acheive the same result as the Apricorn cards - obviously since you have this card already using it is the smart move.

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Re: How does your HP workstation matchup at Passmark Software ?

December 15, 2016, 8:23 am
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MtothaJ wrote:
AnthonyK wrote:

Well I now do not intend to invest more in this system than a few bucks and since I already have a spare LSI 9212-4i SAS 6Gb 4-port RAID Card laying around I presume I could get the same results which I could with your suggested Apricorn Velocity Solo X2 card to connect to this Samsung 850 Evo SSD drive.

Correct me please if I am not reading this right.

Also I do already a USB3 controller card which I have to build in this PC Workstation later tonight.

 

The LSI card will be fine and you will acheive the same result as the Apricorn cards - obviously since you have this card already using it is the smart move.

Not sure though if I should do a fresh installation of Windows on this machine after I build in the LSI card. Or just find out the hard way. 

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Re: How does your HP workstation matchup at Passmark Software ?

December 15, 2016, 8:27 am
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AnthonyK wrote:
MtothaJ wrote:
AnthonyK wrote:

Well I now do not intend to invest more in this system than a few bucks and since I already have a spare LSI 9212-4i SAS 6Gb 4-port RAID Card laying around I presume I could get the same results which I could with your suggested Apricorn Velocity Solo X2 card to connect to this Samsung 850 Evo SSD drive.

Correct me please if I am not reading this right.

Also I do already a USB3 controller card which I have to build in this PC Workstation later tonight.

 

The LSI card will be fine and you will acheive the same result as the Apricorn cards - obviously since you have this card already using it is the smart move.

Not sure though if I should do a fresh installation of Windows on this machine after I build in the LSI card. Or just find out the hard way. 

 

If you are not configuring RAID and just connecting the drive to the card for SATA3 speed then I wouldn't think you would need to do a fresh install. But I guess there is only one way to find out Smiley Wink

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HP Z620 USB 3 Front and Back not working after Win 10

December 15, 2016, 11:57 am
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I upgraded my Z620 to windows 10 and then did a fresh install and now both my front and back USB 3 ports do not work.  Everything else works great though.

 

I cannot find drivers for the ti usb 3 for windows 10, just windows 7.  Please help.

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Re: HP Z620 USB 3 Front and Back not working after Win 10

December 15, 2016, 1:06 pm
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Download that one for Windows 7 from the HP Z620 drivers site and install it as usual.  W10 thereafter may update it.  Worked for me.....

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Re: HP Z620 USB 3 Front and Back not working after Win 10

December 15, 2016, 1:09 pm
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I tried to install that and it says "no compatible hardware was found".

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Re: HP Z620 USB 3 Front and Back not working after Win 10

December 15, 2016, 1:41 pm
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If I understand this you updated from W10 on a W7Pro64 machine (was that your stock Z620 HP build, or from a MS system builder DVD?) and your USB 3 ports worked in that W10 install.  Thereafter you started fresh with a W10 clean install and that did not recognize your TI USB chipset on the motherboard and thus did not place a driver for it in Device Manager as a result.

 

What I'd do then is a clean install of W7Pro64 disconnected from the internet (to avoid any possible autoupdate), then turn off Windows Update in W7 from the control panel, then I'd use my pre-created bootable W10 64 thumb drive to start the W10 install atop the fresh W7Pro64, and then give it internet access when it wants it.

 

Plus, I'd contact HP and the W10 team at MS to let them know they have a bug to work out.....

 

 

Not sure if you know.... there is a W7Pro64 install bug that results in a very early "update" to the Windows Installer system components, almost instant if you are connected to the internet, that very much messes up the ability of the install to thereafter update itself.  There are posts on how to get around this for clean W7Pro64 installs, and my advice is based on a modification of that approach, getting you into the W10 install pathway ASAP without letting the W7install start that process itself.  Let the W10 install guide the install/update process.  

 

After your workstation has been registered once with the central MS W10 servers you don't need to worry about activation again.   Those servers will recognize your box and activate the W10 install as soon you hook back to the internet after it is done.

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I have a pest control issue and need to know if I can heat treat HP monitors, desktops, laptops, etc

December 15, 2016, 2:26 pm
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I have a pest control issue and need to know if I can power off and heat treat HP monitors, desktops, laptops, keyboards, mice, etc. to 130 to 140 deg Fahrenheit.  Is there a concern? I'm told by our pest control provider that this is common practice.

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Re: bios upgrade z600 necessity for improved security or not when on windows 10 64bit

December 15, 2016, 4:21 pm
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1.  You should update your BIOS to the latest.  The BIOS is a primative OS that runs before your main OS, regardless of the main OS version.  That is, BIOS does not know or care what is coming after it has done its job..... after boot it is the job of the main OS to be compatible with BIOS and the hardware present.  That HP workstation works great with W10Pro64, and I even have W10Pro64 running very well on xw6400 and xw6600 workstations.  I have recently posted here on using the Kingston Predator M.2 SSD as my boot drive on that workstation, which is even faster than SATA 3.0.  If you use a PCIe interface read up on which PCIe slots in the Z600 are fastest..... regardless of whether you go SATA gen III or PCIe M.2 SSD you don't want to pick a slow one for your fast card.

 

2.  Just because HP no longer supports a specific workstation with driver and OS updates does not mean it will not work.  Many of the drivers HP provides are universal and work on older workstations.  So, if you have a Broadcom and Realtek chipset on your motherboard you can go to get the installers from later workstations and they generally will be backwards compatible with the older hardware/chipsets too.  That is, we do the testing ourselves at this stage.  HP has to move on to the later generations.

 

3.  Regarding that LSI card..... sometimes when you plug in a card into a W7/W8/W10 workstation there will be a proper driver in the hidden drivers store that the OS has in reserve, and it will recognize that and go get it and install it automatically.  In other cases you need to do some hunting yourself.  So, I'd start with that, and then go to LSI to see if they have anything.  If the same card was offered for a HP workstation that now has official HP W10 drivers I'd go get that before I went to LSI.  And yes you might succeed with use of older drivers if you cannot find newer ones.  An example:  I needed to use an old HP Oxford chipset based PCI card (not PCIe) for serial/parallel cable access under W10, and the HP drivers for W7Pro64 worked fine.  That was a surprise.....

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T620 – wrong model for me?

December 16, 2016, 6:23 am
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Hi All;

I have a T620 Plus Thin Client. It has the following on the pull out label:

  • T620 PLUS /Tpro/4C/8GF/4GRO/TC
  • Serial No.:[Personal Information Removed]
  • Product No.:G6U74AA#ABG

I'm trying to re-purpose this thin client and, to do so, I need to get at the BIOS. According to an HP “Read-This-First!”, publication 746074-B21, the BIOS POST information is only available it the unit is connected to a monitor via the VGA display port on the rear panel.

 

According to the “Quick Specs”, the 2 nd rear port is:

  • Factory configured with one of the following:
    • 1 x serial port (2 nd rear port)
    • 1 x VGA analog video output
    • 1 x Fiber Optic NIC with SC connector

Well, my 2 nd rear port is a serial port. Obviously, it's been “Factory Configured” with two serial ports.

 

So, have I got the wrong model? I wasn't given any choice. What model should I have asked for?

 

I so frustrated! I've been trying to get at the BIOS since I purchased this thin client in October.

 

Thanks,

Norm

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Re: product enquiry

December 15, 2016, 8:02 pm
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, welcome to the forum.

 

This is a peer to peer help forum. The only presence that HP has on it are the Admins and the Mods. Otherwise, none of us works for HP.  Therefore, you should contact HP Customer Support for an answer to your question.  They will be able to help you.

 

Please click the Thumbs up + button if I have helped you and click Accept as Solution if your problem is solved.

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HP POS RP9 G1 not using square display

December 16, 2016, 12:56 am
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Hi Hp Expert,

 

I have read and checked the HP POS RP9 G1 product detail, it says that the display is widescreen (16:9) where the resolution size is 1366 x 768. Is there any other retail system that using square display same as HP RP7 where the screen is square? 

 

Currently, I was planning to replace all 30x unit HP ap5000 AIO to new HP POS model. Unfortunately, it seems all new model from HP is widescreen and it does not meet our software requirement. 

Any new product launch next year? Any POS system can support display for 1024x768, 1152x864,  1280x768, 1280x1024 touchscreen display?

 

Regards

Hafiz_JB

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Change master in a HPDM master/slave setup

December 16, 2016, 6:49 am
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We have an existing installation of HPDM 4.6 SP4 consisting of a master server and two child servers.

Now, the office location that has the master server will be closed down and the server will be decommissioned.

One of the two existing child servers will become the new master.  All 3 are currently functioning as

HPDM Gateways.  The repositories are already sychronized.

 

What will I have to do to make this change in the server install?

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Z440/640/840 - is there a boot block issue like in the Zx20?

December 16, 2016, 7:40 am
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Just wondering whether the Z440/640/840 line also have boards with different boot block dates that prohibit / enable the use of newer version CPU's like is the unfortunate case in the Zx20 line?

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Re: Z440/640/840 - is there a boot block issue like in the Zx20?

December 16, 2016, 12:48 pm
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Not at this time, but I'd not be surprised to see this trend continue.

 

 As you know the Z400/Z600/Z800 series and the Z420/Z620/Z820 workstations both have had version 1 and version 2 motherboards.  The version 2 motherboards have been a welcome addition in that hardware changes became available that opened access to new processors that were not in existence when the version 1 motherboards were engineered.  There have been other HP workstations that have been able to run newly released processors with simple BIOS updates from HP, but that was not the case for the more substantial hardware changes that happened with the two series noted above.

 

I consider it fortunate, personally, that HP adds newer hardware capabilities like this to a product.  I agree that it would be better if those upgrades were more obvious without needing to get into BIOS and checking the boot block date.  Very few eBay sellers know of the v1 versus v2, and wise purchasers can use this information to their benefit.  I have donated a number of HP workstations to good causes, and use this knowledge to build them the best I can for the least cost.

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Re: Z440/640/840 - is there a boot block issue like in the Zx20?

December 16, 2016, 12:51 pm
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SDH wrote:

 

 

Not at this time, but I'd not be surprised to see this trend continue.

 

 As you know the Z400/Z600/Z800 series and the Z420/Z620/Z820 workstations both have had version 1 and version 2 motherboards.  The version 2 motherboards have been a welcome addition in that hardware changes became available that opened access to new processors that were not in existance when the version 1 motherboards were engineered.  There have been other HP workstations that have been able to run newly released processors with simple BIOS updates from HP, but that was not the case for the more substantial hardware changes that happened with the two series noted above.

 

I consider it fortunate, personally, that HP adds newer hardware cabailities like this to a product.  I agree that it would be better if those upgrades were more obvious without needing to get into BIOS and checking the boot block date.  Very few eBay sellers know of the v1 versus v2, and wise purchasers can use this information to their benefit.  I have donated a number of HP workstations to good causes, and use this knowledge to build them the best I can for the least cost.

 

The thing is there were no hardware changes per se in terms of the motherboards between v1 and v2 versions. This is evident by the fact that a v1 motherboards boot up the v2 CPU's just fine with a v2 bios chip installed / programmed.

 

I think at the end of the day the whole issue here is that HP does not support CPU upgrades. They would rather you buy a new workstation when Intel goes from tick to tock or in the worst case scenario a new motherboard. I think they are aware that this money grabbing apporach wouldn't be viewed on too favourably hence they are intentionally fuzzy about this in the quick specs.

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Re: Z440/640/840 - is there a boot block issue like in the Zx20?

December 16, 2016, 1:17 pm
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I'm hoping you know about the chipset change that is surely a significant hardware change that separates the v1 from the v2 motherboards in the Z400/Z600/Z600 series.  That opened up use not only of new processors but also opened use of registered ECC in addition to unregistered ECC memory.  And it allowed the Z400 to access more physical memory.

 

As for the Z420/Z620/Z820 series...... expecting HP to unsolder, reprogram, and resolder in chips on the older v1 motherboards to perhaps be stable to HP standards is a reach.  I have posted here about how easy it is to buy a v2 motherboard off eBay and swap out the old v1 motherboard.  That is an afternoon project.  I've done it.

 

HP could have shut down our posting here about all the secrets of how to upgrade processors in various HP workstations years ago, and they have not.  We even can receive help from talented and knowledgeable HP engineers here.  So, gripe all you wish, but I've felt for years now that HP actually encourages creative recycling of their excellent workstations through this forum.  There are a lot of college students and high school students who have gained access to used HP workstations and then upgraded to faster used processors and gotten good used memory via eBay or other sources.  This is the one practical source on the internet for such targeted guidance.

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