Keep the boot block recovery jumper on pins 2 to 3 of E15. This is "off" because pin 3 is not connected. Putting the jumper from pins 2 to 3 "parks" the jumper. Putting the jumper on pins 1 to 2 activates the boot block recovery mode, and the system will not boot with the jumper in this "on" position. (You already found this out)
Also, do not mix unbuffered and registered memory in the same system. Use only one or the other.
Is this a dual CPU system? If so, then some of the QPI links between the CPUs are not working correctly. It could be a CPU or a CPU socket issue. If the system is new and under warranty, contact HP support.
I feel your pain, but these are enterprise workstations and not consumer grade boxes. You have the most recent boot block date for the Z620, so all HP-approved processors for that should work fine. A number of us on this forum have been posting on upgrading the processors.... that is different from adding a second processor (which HP does support). And, HP has not shut us out. In fact, my sense is that there are HP engineers who have done the same things we do and help within the constraints that exist in a very large corporation. The HP hardware has served us in our business very well, and many of our HP workstations have been processor-upgraded. Heres a few tips:
1. Troll the Z620 QuickSpecs for the processors, and make a worksheet..... it is not that hard. HP has a QuickSpec library, and in my experience any processor they listed as approved for the Version 1 will work in your Version 2 Z620. Not that you want to go back in time..... Your most valuable QuickSpec versions will be the latest ones, and those are easy to find. Make a list from that and figure out what is in your budget, for two (I'm assuming).
2. Do a google search on the processor(s) you are interested in and go to the Intel "ark" site (in the address). Go to the left column and click on the link with sSpec mentioned.... that will show you the sSpec codes for each of the processors. Search eBay for those, and see the prices, versus what Intel will sell you a new one for. If there is only one sSpec code then you are golden.... you will buy exactly what HP buys, but much cheaper used, especially if one step down from the very fastest in any category. I'm wary of China/Hong Kong processors. Experienced US sellers have been fine.
3. Get the right tools and the good thermal paste (Noctua, for me), and learn how to handle these processors very carefully during their install. That has been posted about in here, in detail. You obviously are skilled, and this will be pretty much a plug and play (after you pay) project.
4. Pay attention to the info in the QuickSpecs... with the Z620 not every processor can be doubled up. Some can only run by themselves, because they dont have the extra QPI link to talk with the motherboard plus the other processor.
You might get a processor never listed by HP to work. It can happen, but don't count on that. Your best list is already provided by HP in the later QuickSpecs (the latest I have here is 4/15, v46). The newer your workstation is the more expensive this type of project is, but that is no surprise.
Long time ago I posted on the forum about my work that allowed me to run a 3TB drive on a xw6600 on its SATA bus, which is not supposed to be possible. It took quite a bit of work, and use of a special Intel driver. The same storage controller ESB2 chip is in your xw8400 as in the xw6600, and the method would work for larger than 3TB drives. I concluded it was not worth the effort, and potential data risk, and chose to stick with 2TB drives if I really needed a large storage HDD in one of those ESB2-based workstations.
There is another way I'd go now, however. In the xw6600 I'd drop in one of the HP USB3 cards into its lower PCIe x16 slots and run a USB3 cable up to a spare OD bay where I'd have the large HDD mounted, with a SATA-to-USB3 bridge attached, fed by an internal power cable. It is pretty easy to find those, and a custom DC power feed would be easy to make rather than use a 120v AC to a DC power supply. I'd need to check the power capacity of the bridge and the large HDD max power draw. The 6600/8600 have PCIe Gen II for their 2 PCIe x16 slots; the 6400/8400 only have Gen I which still would run at 2.5Gb/s, in theory. That is up to 175MB/s based on HP docs for USB3 running via a 5Gb/s bus (300MB/s) which is the bandwidth of a PCIe Gen II slot.
If you can live with PCIe Gen 1 speeds then that bridge would work fine, and big drives via USB3 work great. I've gotten that USB3 card ("2x2") running fine under W7Pro64, W10Pro64, and now with the W10 Anniversary Edition. Very fast, and I can get you the HP parts numbers if needed.
When HP changed the forum around the old posts largely got lost, but I have a PDF copy I could send you if you PM me here, if you really want to try the SATA bus method instead. I'd advise against it.
Many thanks for the information, (and after having a little break), I agree with your sentiments of separating the corporate HP from the employees . Essentially the Z620 was never designed to be a modders heaven but having such a powerful, stable work horse as a starting point is too much of a temptation, the HP build quality is the best I have used in terms of dual CPU systems.
Anyway, here's the worksheet I'm working from;
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Essentially, I want to take advantage of my 1866MHz memory, (which is currently only running at 1600MHz due to my CPU's being E5-2670's v1). I looked at the quickspecs and created the above list of certified CPU's then proceeded to whittle down the list. My current PassMark dual CPU score is listed on the bottom row.
Started by ignoring all the E5-1600 series CPU's, followed by those that would not increase my ram speed, then passmark score, and finally ranking the remaining choices. I've already been searching ebay and realize that the minimum price will easily be in the £300-400+ mark for a single genuine production v2 CPU. I will be steering well clear of any cheaper ES or QS samples. I generally find that if you are patient enough, I wouldn't be surprised if I managed to buy a E5-2600 v2 CPU for nearer the £150-250 mark. (I manged to get my 2x E5-2670 for £115, K4200 for £275 and Tesla M2090 for £65 on ebay).
FYI,
I'm currently in the process of adding a Tesla M2090 to my Z620. I managed to get my quadro K4200 and Tesla M2090 running, (and benchmarked), simultaneously for a few minutes before the Tesla thermal shutdown kicked in. I am currently fitting a liquid cooling set-up and will post the full details when done. Using Octanebench, the K4200/Tesla M2090 maximus set-up, the score is the same as a quadro K6000 and marginally better than a quadro M5000.
The answers given by BambiBoomZ and Dan_WGBU seem to have solved everything.
What I learned from Dan_WGBU: That I mixed up my thoughts on the Crisis Recovery Jumper. To be fair, I have not been able to find documentation about it and have been guessing based on what I read about other systems. I now realize that on E15, pins 2 and 3 are the normal setting, and pins 1 and 2 are the Boot Block Recovery Mode. So that means my system was not making an error on the Kingston ValueRAM 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR3 1333MHz DIMM Desktop Server Memory and that it still accepts this type of RAM. When I purchased it, I bought it because it was a 240-pin Registered, ECC DIMM which is compatible. For whatever reason, when the System Board was shipped to me, it came with the jumper already on pins 1 and 2 and I had assumed that was the correct position, which was wrong.
What I learned from BambiBoomZ: While it is possible to change a setting in the BIOS to turn off the need to press F1 for Configuration Changes, that it will always force me to use F1 when there are issues such as fans not running. I found the cable for the Front Chassis Fan and connected it, which got rid of that warning. I had to carefully re-attach the Memory Fan, as it wasn't fully pushed into the 6-pin connector. That got rid of the Memory Fan and Memory Fan (2) warnings. Then I no longer needed to press F1, and I could boot into Windows normally without intervention.
So this problem appears to be fully resolved that I can tell. Thank you everyone for the input, and the assistance.
thanx but i have already called they refusing to help ...and windows can recognize both processors also i have used intel diagnostic tool and it passed it ...only bothering message every boot and taking long in black screen OROM check
The bridge I'd use is from Anker, and you can get those off Amazon either without or with a power supply. The power supply is 12VDC 2 amps (24 watts), and creating a power cable and plug from the 12VDC power ports (SATA or 4-pin Molex) would be easy.
I'm thinking that 2 amps of 12VDC is more than enough to run a multi-Terabyte HDD.... I checked and some 5TB HDDs I found ran in use at about 10 watts. Even drawing power to the bridge off a spare floppy power cable, which has its 12VDC wire rated for 3 amps, that would be more than enough wattage (36 watts) to easily power a large HDD.
EDIT: Looking deeper, here is a SIIG one that specifies the chipset from ASMedia for the bridge, which allows SATA III performance. The xw generation of HP workstations are SATA II, however, but this would be backwards compatible. These adapters all can run a 2.5" drive off USB3 bus power, but for 3.5" drives they need the supplemental 12VDC. The SIIG site specifically states that their bridge supports 4TB drives:
I do not have experience with plug-in PCIe SATA II or III interface cards, so that remains an avenue for your added research. Those are now inexpensive enough that it might be worth doing the experiment to see, and please let us know your results.
Finally, I have posted in this forum recently on the ESB2 drivers from Intel variably supporting the TRIM feature that W7/W10 uses to keep SSDs tuned up automatically. If you are running a SSD in any of these xw workstations this is quite important for you to read up on, HERE .
Ask them to escalate your case since a new Z840 should work without any POST errors.
I have had other issues and being persistent regarding your case and asking them to escalate your case should do the trick. I have had computers that dont boot up and their solution was to upgrade the BIOS wich of course did not solve the problem since the motherboard was defect. Sometimes the support can be really bad.
This article had the fix for me - thanks for posting.
My problem ended up being related to the SMB share. I had the share and permissions set up correctly, but had to go into Tools > repository Management > Shared Folder Settings, and add a user name/password and specify the URL where the share was located.
this is my first post here although i have had my z800 for over 5 years, its a dual x5690, 32GB ram and a quadro 6000, for a while i have had 4 samsung 840 pro 128GB drives set in raid0 using the Intel Raid, and only now decided to tacle the issue i am having...
here is the setup
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I know they are connected to Sata2 ports so only get 50% the speed, but 4 in raid 0 should be getting arroun 800-1000MB/s and I am only getting the following...
AS SSD Results.
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Crystaldisk results.
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I can't for the life of me figure out what is wrong... I have spent months searching and nada...
Any ideas or help would be humungously appreciated!
The Xeon E5 v2's were one of the best series ever as the core counts were gnerally the same as the first version, but the clock speeds were increased. going to v3's generally added 2 cores and simultaneously the clock speeds dropped so there were few v3's with decent single-thread performance excpe the very expensive top ones. the situation is somewhat better with v4 bit there are also performance gaps in the 6 and 8 cores, where the clock speed - and price- jumps with a large increment. The E5-1600's though have kept the sequence vonsisitent and both E5-1600 v3 and v4 are good balances of cores and speeds.
The Wikipedia page is convenient for Xeon E5 2600 v2 shopping:
My favorite E5 of all is probably the E5-2687w v2 as it changed from the first verison 8-core @ 3.2 /3.8 to 8-core at 3.4 /4.0GHz:
E5-2687w: Passmark average CPU rating: 14439 / Single Thread: 1872
E5-2687w v2: 16666 / 2059
For Comparison:
E5-2670: 12440 / 1575
-The v2 being one of the great all-rounders. As those are still quite expensive used, I settled for the in effect, the 6-core version- the E5-1660 v2 6-core @ 3.7 /4.0Ghz: 13767 / 2082
In terms of priority of perfomance, in my uses- mostly 3D modeling, the priority is single-threaded. I got along for a long while with an E5-1620 4-core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz as the single thread mark was 1930 was quite good in modeling, but 4-cores is not exciting in CPU rendering.
The problem is the cost of used v2's are still quite high (8.2016). By the numbers, a very good choice might be the E5 2667 v2 but at £1200-1500 it's a bit expensive. The E5-2680 v2 is £650-750 and E5-2650 v2 at about £400-600 are not too painf The 2650 v2 clock speed is quite similar to your E5-2670 but the single-thread rating is much improved::
E5-2670: 12440 / 1575
E5-2650 v2: 13026 / 1861
However for £129-140:
E5-2690: 14438 / 1873
That would be a definite advantage in SW modeling, but in balance, changing to a Quadro M4000 or especially an M5000 would be more noticeable . That's a difficult equation as the E5-2650 v2 is going to improve rendering speed as well.
A for memory use, I wonder if the 1600 to 1866 difference is very noticable. there is a counter-intuitive sequence: as the clock speed increases so does the latency: DDR3 1333 has a CAS latency of 9 and DDR2666 has a latency of 18- there a mathematical relationship there.- 2X speed= 2X CAS latency
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But the true l;atency depcreases as there a more clock cycles completed int he same time.
And I think the true latency is the experiential component- the higher RAM clock speed will improve rendering speeds, but it's difficult to differentiate experientially the CPU , disk, RAM, and GPU.
I've added RAM to systems but never changed RAM speeds in the same system, so it would be interesting to see how that change alone affects the performance.
Many z-series users will appreicate a report on adding a Telsa GPU coprocessor as those who can use their capabilities can have such important benefits at a low cost.
Just checked this on the Z620 I'm sitting at..... I believe the navigation will be the same for you.
Part of the security layers with HP workstations is that you can turn a bunch of things off so that they appear invisible on a hardware and software level. At least on the Z620 here is what I'd do: F10 into BIOS/ Security tab/ Device Security/ USB3 Controller/ change to Device Hidden/ F10 to save in that subsection/ Esc back to File tab/ Save Changes and Exit/ F10 to really save the change.
Now reboot.... with some other projects I've used this method makes the "device" no longer detected by the OS or even by the computer itself (it is no longer listed in Device Manager). For these type of changes I tape a post it note to the inside of the side cover so that at some time in the future I'll remember what I did.
I'm sure you know that there is a BIOS setting for whether the workstation restarts after power loss/return or stays shutdown.....
